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"Dsscats" (dsscats)
05/05/2015 at 20:13 • Filed to: None

The legality of this is EXTREMELY questionable.

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DISCUSSION (35)

ranwhenparked > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 20:17

Extremely. If someone wanted it buy it to use purely as a track car, I suppose it would be OK.

PushToStart > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 20:18

It’s not that I don’t want it but... I wouldn’t buy it. Like you say, I’m not totally convinced it’s 100% legal.

jkm7680 > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 20:19

Very sketchy. Crushety crush crush crush.

Winck182 > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 20:20

Kinja'd!!!

I’ve always loved those taillights more than those of any other generation. Wish we got that one in the US.

Dsscats > ranwhenparked
05/05/2015 at 20:21

If it didn’t enter the country legally and if it isn’t bond released, it’s still not legal.

Sam > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 20:30

Kinja'd!!!

Vicente Esteve > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 20:33

Since I have nothing to add, here is an ad (See that pun) for one

http://auto.autoplaza.com.mx/MLM-494627888-…

Brickman > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 20:35

Stupid government. It’s not like the owner will turn the car into a bomb.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 20:36

Pretty sure the explanation of legality is somewhere in this vid.

ranwhenparked > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 20:40

But it will most likely be off the federal government’s radar, if it isn’t registered for the street.

Sam > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 20:44

ranwhenparked is right, if the person isn’t trying to register it the feds probably won’t question it.

Dsscats > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
05/05/2015 at 20:45

All it said was they got 6 months to keep it in from Mexico.

Tohru > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 20:50

The legality is not questionable - it was brought in illegally. End of story.

It’s not legal, it’s never been federalized or bond released, it doesn’t qualify under Show and Display.

It is an illegal car.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 20:51

Well they did explain how, buy a house in Mexico, register the car there, and then leave it there most of the year...

Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
05/05/2015 at 20:51

hahahaha I love his snickering in the beginning

Matvei > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 20:56

Hi. I import cars. Strictly speaking, the car is here legally, but he can’t legally sell it. A temporary import allows a foreign national (or US national who resides abroad) to bring in a foreign plated vehicle for up to 1 year. It cannot be sold while it is here and must be exported after that year. So he shouldn’t be selling it here, that would be called filing a false customs declaration (re: intent) and it is a felony. But, there is nothing stopping anyone from having a residence in Canada or Mexico, registering the car there, and occasionally using the car here. However, he needs to be selling the car in that country, not in the US.

Dsscats > Matvei
05/05/2015 at 20:58

They’re also claiming the car is US legal....

Dsscats > Matvei
05/05/2015 at 21:04

Also, you should post some about being am importer on Oppo!

Coty > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 21:13

HOLY FUCK THIS IS CLOSE TO ME

SO WAS THE QVALE, WHAT THE FUCK

Dsscats > Coty
05/05/2015 at 21:19

Go visit in your FoST!

Coty > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 21:23

You make that suggestion like I’m not already planning, haha

Dude I don’t know how many car faxes you’ve seen before, but the carfax for this is just so weird:

http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory…

Dsscats > Coty
05/05/2015 at 21:25

So the very first record shows as a mileage inconsistency?

And it was registered in AZ. Because of course it was.

revrseat70 > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 21:33

Where are those straps going?

Matvei > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 21:43

I’m still in the greys on Jalopnik so it’s hard to post things. If you give me more access I can talk about it.

Matvei > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 21:45

The car isn’t US legal. In the video it explicitly says the car is registered in Mexico. That’s fine, technically. They can bring it in for up to 1 year at a time. But they cannot sell the car while it is here. If they sold the car that’s a crime.

Dsscats > Matvei
05/05/2015 at 21:47

Mods have to see you posting a few times to get you authorship. If you post it on your individual Kinja blog and let me know, I can share it to Oppositelock.

Dsscats > Matvei
05/05/2015 at 21:47

Then crime it is! Someone posted the Carfax and they first registered it in AZ in 2012.

Matvei > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 21:50

This kind of things happens all the time. Import car on temporary permission (HS-7) and then even though you aren’t supposed to, you sell it (illegally) to a US resident. Then find a state that doesn’t care about this kind of thing (Arizona, in this case) to register it. Most states will ask for the HS-7 and would refuse this because they would see that it was imported temporarily (i.e., you cannot register it in the US and should be driving on foreign plates). But Arizona and Florida are notorious for not asking to see the HS-7 and 3520-1 so you can get away with anything. So you end up with a car that is legally registered in a state...but isn’t federally legal. The only way to legally do this would’ve been to keep the car registered in Mexico and bring it into the US on a 1 year temporary import, then export it before the year runs up, rinse and repeat. That would be legal, assuming you have somewhere to register it in Mexico. But this is not legal.

Matvei > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 21:51

You would also need a Mexican driver’s license and Mexican insurance.

Matvei > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 21:54

Yep. That’s not kosher. And by the way, there is no such thing as importing a car for “off-road use” It doesn’t matter. They don’t care. The only exemption that would allow you to permanently import a race car is if the car was originally built by the manufacturer as a race car. Your Civic with a roll cage is not a race car. If it has ANY features which would allow it to be used on a road (indicators, etc.) it is not a race car. And you can’t convert it. It had to have come out of the factory as a car that was never going to be purchased by the consumer.

Dsscats > Matvei
05/05/2015 at 22:02

I know. I’m decently educated about that kind of thing. Don’t you have to get a letter from the manufacturer stating that it’s original intent was as a race car too?

Matvei > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 22:38

You have to get NHTSA approval. A letter from the manufacturer, or some other kind of documentation proving this, is required. Check out the post I made to my personal blog.

Dsscats > Matvei
05/05/2015 at 22:59

Just shared to Oppositelock!

Matvei > Dsscats
05/05/2015 at 23:58

I replied to questions in the comments section, but they show up as pending so people can’t see them LOL

Coty > Dsscats
05/06/2015 at 07:57

lolyes